Comments on: Men of Barton Heights? http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:56:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eddie http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59705 Eddie Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:44:34 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59705 Hahaha! Me? Racist? Far from it. Yeah, a Hispanic racist. A guy who's been called a Hispanic slur one too many times and was pulled over several times in Philadelphia for "fitting the profile". A guy who participated in multicultural programs and a strong believer for equality amongst all people - Black, White, Gay, Straight, Hispanic, Asian, etc. Jewish, Muslim, Roman Catholic, Born-Again Christian, Atheist, etc. Interesting choice of word. Ridiculous, but... "interesting". Bottom line, I love the neighborhood. I love the people. (Why else would I have moved here?) I'm a blue collar guy and I wanted a neighborhood that closely represented everything I stand for. Hard working. Family first. That's what it represents to me. Point blank, I didn't like the rhetoric used, but that's your business to use it. I'll keep raising my daughter to respect all God's creations, while... well, others can continue to their quest to polarize a community for no good reason. Hahaha! Me? Racist? Far from it. Yeah, a Hispanic racist. A guy who’s been called a Hispanic slur one too many times and was pulled over several times in Philadelphia for “fitting the profile”. A guy who participated in multicultural programs and a strong believer for equality amongst all people – Black, White, Gay, Straight, Hispanic, Asian, etc. Jewish, Muslim, Roman Catholic, Born-Again Christian, Atheist, etc.

Interesting choice of word. Ridiculous, but… “interesting”.

Bottom line, I love the neighborhood. I love the people. (Why else would I have moved here?) I’m a blue collar guy and I wanted a neighborhood that closely represented everything I stand for. Hard working. Family first. That’s what it represents to me.

Point blank, I didn’t like the rhetoric used, but that’s your business to use it. I’ll keep raising my daughter to respect all God’s creations, while… well, others can continue to their quest to polarize a community for no good reason.

]]> By: Jermaine ONeil (vice President) the Men of Barton Heights Youth Org. http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59644 Jermaine ONeil (vice President) the Men of Barton Heights Youth Org. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:18:37 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59644 Oh and by the way Eddie. You wanted to bring popcorn to hear what Mr. Day had to say. You sound just like a very intelligent and mature former receiver for the dallas cowboys.(he wore number 81 last year) We all know how he is perceived among his peers and the media. Why not have an open mind and try to understand Mr. Day's concerns. But wait that might require you to not be racist. Oh and by the way Eddie. You wanted to bring popcorn to hear what Mr. Day had to say. You sound just like a very intelligent and mature former receiver for the dallas cowboys.(he wore number 81 last year) We all know how he is perceived among his peers and the media. Why not have an open mind and try to understand Mr. Day’s concerns. But wait that might require you to not be racist.

]]> By: K915 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59643 K915 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:17:41 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59643 I am not a homeowner in Battery Park, but I do a lot of volunteering with the rec center and as a result spend a significant amount of time there. "People should be proud that their neighborhood is beautiful enough for someone to want to move there?" Neighbors having love and caring for their homes/community is what has made it beautiful. They didn't do it for others to develop interest. Neighbors didn't stay dilligent behind the city of Richmond to make the repairs after the flood to attract others. Negative perceptions of the intent behind this flyer Mr. Day distributed as a call to action for the neighbors who weren't showing care and concern for the activities taking place in their community are multiplying like a cancerous growth. Asking for an increased level of responsibility and awareness among his bretheren is being reported on as racial hate. And then making the careless comments about the youth organization that has done such positive things as getting some of the neighborhood children into college on scholarships, and providing positive outlets and caring for kids who otherwise would not receive it is an utter disgrace. When you spread partial information that has been tainted with your own biased personal views of the situation instead of sitting down with the other opinions and understanding the sources (why would someone say those folks just wanna drive their cars onto the grass at the park? that is a generalized statement at a whole group for something a few foolish youth did)That's like taking a dig at the folks who fought to get the signs prohibiting dogs in certain parts of the park taken down. They said their rights weren't being honored. What happens if a pet bites a frightened child at the park? I feel for the pet owners who want a place to enjoy their dogs, but I also understand the parents who know that animals no matter how well trained can sometimes be unpredictable. Anyhoo, the flight Eddie discussed already happened in Battery many moons ago. And now that the neighborhood is integrating again, we need to come up with better ways to find common ground instead of posting blasts of how we are publically against the bias, but are still sub-consciously doing/saying things that would indicate otherwise... I am not a homeowner in Battery Park, but I do a lot of volunteering with the rec center and as a result spend a significant amount of time there. “People should be proud that their neighborhood is beautiful enough for someone to want to move there?” Neighbors having love and caring for their homes/community is what has made it beautiful. They didn’t do it for others to develop interest. Neighbors didn’t stay dilligent behind the city of Richmond to make the repairs after the flood to attract others.
Negative perceptions of the intent behind this flyer Mr. Day distributed as a call to action for the neighbors who weren’t showing care and concern for the activities taking place in their community are multiplying like a cancerous growth. Asking for an increased level of responsibility and awareness among his bretheren is being reported on as racial hate. And then making the careless comments about the youth organization that has done such positive things as getting some of the neighborhood children into college on scholarships, and providing positive outlets and caring for kids who otherwise would not receive it is an utter disgrace. When you spread partial information that has been tainted with your own biased personal views of the situation instead of sitting down with the other opinions and understanding the sources (why would someone say those folks just wanna drive their cars onto the grass at the park? that is a generalized statement at a whole group for something a few foolish youth did)That’s like taking a dig at the folks who fought to get the signs prohibiting dogs in certain parts of the park taken down. They said their rights weren’t being honored. What happens if a pet bites a frightened child at the park? I feel for the pet owners who want a place to enjoy their dogs, but I also understand the parents who know that animals no matter how well trained can sometimes be unpredictable. Anyhoo, the flight Eddie discussed already happened in Battery many moons ago. And now that the neighborhood is integrating again, we need to come up with better ways to find common ground instead of posting blasts of how we are publically against the bias, but are still sub-consciously doing/saying things that would indicate otherwise…

]]> By: Jermaine ONeil (vice President) the Men of Barton Heights Youth Org. http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59641 Jermaine ONeil (vice President) the Men of Barton Heights Youth Org. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:09:00 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59641 It is amazing the racist response we have been getting to a flyer that was created to stimulate African Americans in the the Battery Park area. If the BPCA is unbiased then they should welcome all kinds. Are the Jewish leaders racist for organizing their communities. What about the Asia and Latino communities. If you do the research about the Barton Heights community and understand the demographics , then why is the BPCA officers are all white. The flyer is a call for the community to get involve with the quote (civic association). The flyer was in response to members of the civic association calling the police on the Men of Barton Heights on 5/16/09. The Men of Barton Heights had a fish fry and basketball tournament. Ginny's roomate call the police on the kids down the park. The event was permitted by the center supervisor and the district manager of Recreation and Parks. In fact the district mananger's grand daughter was at the event. Todd who is the president of the Civic Association was asked about the police being called and his comment was no one "NOTIFIED HIM" of the event. Why does he has to be notified of what goes on at a public park. The flyer commented on the element and the element is this controlling nature of the Civic Association officers. The police said that an association member called and said we are illegally down the park. Why didn't they come and talk to us first. Now who is the racist. It is amazing the racist response we have been getting to a flyer that was created to stimulate African Americans in the the Battery Park area. If the BPCA is unbiased then they should welcome all kinds. Are the Jewish leaders racist for organizing their communities. What about the Asia and Latino communities. If you do the research about the Barton Heights community and understand the demographics , then why is the BPCA officers are all white. The flyer is a call for the community to get involve with the quote (civic association). The flyer was in response to members of the civic association calling the police on the Men of Barton Heights on 5/16/09. The Men of Barton Heights had a fish fry and basketball tournament. Ginny’s roomate call the police on the kids down the park. The event was permitted by the center supervisor and the district manager of Recreation and Parks. In fact the district mananger’s grand daughter was at the event. Todd who is the president of the Civic Association was asked about the police being called and his comment was no one “NOTIFIED HIM” of the event. Why does he has to be notified of what goes on at a public park. The flyer commented on the element and the element is this controlling nature of the Civic Association officers. The police said that an association member called and said we are illegally down the park. Why didn’t they come and talk to us first. Now who is the racist.

]]> By: Adelphia http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59220 Adelphia Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:06:33 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59220 Eddie, thanks for your follow up . . . appreciate having a better understanding of the context your speaking from. I would still disagree with your rhetoric, but I think you make some valid points. thanks. Eddie, thanks for your follow up . . . appreciate having a better understanding of the context your speaking from. I would still disagree with your rhetoric, but I think you make some valid points. thanks.

]]> By: paul_h http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59164 paul_h Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:43:36 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59164 As long as they feel good about who they are. As long as they feel good about who they are.

]]> By: Eddie http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59153 Eddie Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:16:46 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59153 Can I just say real quick that 1. People should be proud that your neighborhood's beautiful enough and people see enough potential in it that they're buying up houses and moving in & 2. I really liked these guys when I heard them out at a BCPA meeting last year asking for money to help with uniforms for the football team. I gave what I could give at the time. & 3. I know I was rough, but I'm a live and let live kind of guy. I just don't like that kind of rhetoric. Times change. I go back to Williamsburg, Brooklyn and am amazed how much it changed since I lived there. My neighborhood in Philly was once the running joke of Northeast Philadelphia, but now it's a hot commodity. Times change, places change, the faces of people change.... it's how it's handled that matters. I remember the white flight of the 90's in Northeast Philadelphia. I'd hate to see people flock out of a neighborhood, have housing prices plummet and as a result open the door for trouble makers move in like it did in the 90's for Northeast Philadelphia. Let's just be neighborly. :o) (Sorry... still frustrated over these notices.) Can I just say real quick that 1. People should be proud that your neighborhood’s beautiful enough and people see enough potential in it that they’re buying up houses and moving in & 2. I really liked these guys when I heard them out at a BCPA meeting last year asking for money to help with uniforms for the football team. I gave what I could give at the time. & 3. I know I was rough, but I’m a live and let live kind of guy. I just don’t like that kind of rhetoric. Times change. I go back to Williamsburg, Brooklyn and am amazed how much it changed since I lived there. My neighborhood in Philly was once the running joke of Northeast Philadelphia, but now it’s a hot commodity. Times change, places change, the faces of people change…. it’s how it’s handled that matters. I remember the white flight of the 90′s in Northeast Philadelphia. I’d hate to see people flock out of a neighborhood, have housing prices plummet and as a result open the door for trouble makers move in like it did in the 90′s for Northeast Philadelphia. Let’s just be neighborly. :o) (Sorry… still frustrated over these notices.)

]]> By: Eddie http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59120 Eddie Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:56:43 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59120 Or is it "Wolves in sheep's clothing"? I dunno... whatever, I just don't like them very much right now. Or is it “Wolves in sheep’s clothing”? I dunno… whatever, I just don’t like them very much right now.

]]> By: Eddie http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59119 Eddie Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:55:45 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59119 @Adelphia - I believe the flyer said and explained more than enough. I grew up in Brooklyn and Philadelphia in very integrated neighborhoods. I'm Hispanic. In Brooklyn, I went to school with Hasidic Jews, Indians, Hispanics, Blacks, Whites, Asians, etc. I was a part of the "desegregation" program in Philadelphia that shipped minority students to traditionally "white" schools. I was a member of the multicultural association in HS and college where we celebrated diversity. Yeah, I have little tolerance for such divisiveness and, yeah, if the inferred is true, they can rot. They don't pay my utilities, my taxes, my mortgage, etc. They don't buy diapers, formula, clothes, etc. for my 4 month old. I don't owe them a thing nor do I owe them an ear to hear them out. For being sheep in wolves clothing - they get the gas face. @Adelphia – I believe the flyer said and explained more than enough. I grew up in Brooklyn and Philadelphia in very integrated neighborhoods. I’m Hispanic. In Brooklyn, I went to school with Hasidic Jews, Indians, Hispanics, Blacks, Whites, Asians, etc. I was a part of the “desegregation” program in Philadelphia that shipped minority students to traditionally “white” schools. I was a member of the multicultural association in HS and college where we celebrated diversity. Yeah, I have little tolerance for such divisiveness and, yeah, if the inferred is true, they can rot. They don’t pay my utilities, my taxes, my mortgage, etc. They don’t buy diapers, formula, clothes, etc. for my 4 month old. I don’t owe them a thing nor do I owe them an ear to hear them out. For being sheep in wolves clothing – they get the gas face.

]]> By: Frank http://northrichmondnews.com/news/2009/06/08/men-of-barton-heights/#comment-59063 Frank Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:11:47 +0000 http://northrichmondnews.com/news/?p=2037#comment-59063 This will not be discussed at the BPCA. This will not be discussed at the BPCA.

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